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Mobile LBE Design, Construction

posted Sep 16, 2012 07:26:56 by tieguyny
(Hey everybody, just a quick not to say that this topic has evolved into a full-blown Kickstarter Campaign, featuring a much improved/updated version of the images below.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/868111069/mobile-bridge-project-featuring-artemis-sbs
Please feel free to check it out and please let other know about it!)

It occurred to me that not everyone has the room to build their own bridge in their home (I certainly don't). However, a not-too-large enclosed trailer could make a very nice space for an LBE, with just enough room for a captain and each station, and it would be mobile to boot! (So, take it to a friend's or to a convention and park it right on the convention floor.) I've drawn up some plans for a bridge built in an 8.5' x 16' enclosed trailer, which I'm posting below. Everything is modeled after actual real life components, and I've fairly accurately priced the entire project (new trailer included) for about $12,000.

Component used:

- 8.5' x 16' enclosed trailer
- 1080p projector OR 60" flat screen TV (same price)
- Five 15" touch screen all-in-one computers, mounted in custom black acrylic/wood terminals with pull out keyboard/mouse trays
- 5 crew chairs and 1 captain's chair (gaming chairs on custom swivel mounts)
- 1 Server computer
- An air conditioner rated for 150sq ft.(So you're missions don't get too smelly/uncomfortable)
- Various lighting fixtures, taking advantage of the DMX features

Of course there are thousands of layouts other than the one below possible, using the same components, just moving them around. I've been in fabrication and woodworking for years, and even built several racing trailers, so I can tell you this is very possible. Actually, if anyone would be interested in having one put together, let me know.

Anyway, enjoy the pictures and I'm open to suggestions.























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avbeeri said Sep 16, 2012 11:38:46
This would be such an awesome idea. I'd love to see it in action.
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PurplePenguin04 said Sep 16, 2012 16:05:33
What is the height inside the trailer?

Was this model made in Google Sketchup? Would you be willing to share it?
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RobJosephson said Sep 16, 2012 17:17:48
The only thing I think it's lacking ia a joystick for helm. I've actually found this to be the easiest way to navigate as you automatically level out if you let go of the stick.
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PirateGent said Sep 16, 2012 18:19:08
Two thoughts.... (thinking back to my location video shoot trailer....)

1 - power? How would you get power to trailer?
2 - mount a TV outside (so people can watch via observer mode)

Otherwise VERY COOL..... wish I had the money and time (and a car to pull the trailer)
Edward
Baton Rouge, LA
www.BRStarTrek.com
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tieguyny said Sep 16, 2012 21:31:35
PurplePenguin04: Interior height is 78", and there is a raised 4" platform in the rear (in the Engineering, Science, and Comms section), so anyone taller than 6'2" would have to duck slightly to stand in the back. (Of course you're not supposed to do a lot of standing)

RobJosephson: I thought about a joystick, really any accessories would be easy to include (switches, buttons, reading lights, cup holders, mini fridge, anything) You'd just have to make up your mind beforehand to include those things in your build. Of course, you could just plug in a joystick, but I think it would be cool to make a nice looking mount for it.

PirateGent: Yeah if you check out the floor plan on the side I put an external power hookup, just like a travel trailer. Alternatively I thought about putting it in the front, near the AC. I really like the external TV idea, I was thinking about ways for people to observe. I thought about discretely placing a few webcams inside, so you could record a mission log or even stream the action for observers. Each of the station computers has a built in webcam, I'd be interested to see if that would make possible quick video conferencing communication between stations.

Another idea I had, even though it would increase the build cost slightly, would be to use a couple of smaller side facing projectors to project the left and right side views on the walls. You'd just have to include a projection surface on either interior wall. It would also be feasible to hook up some exterior hydraulics to make the whole thing shake when you hit an asteroid/got shot, I read something like that in another post. That's getting pretty fancy, but it would be easier than making a room in your house shake.
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tieguyny said Sep 17, 2012 09:42:54
Here's a few renders, with some decorative light-up panels included. The station labels are lit up as well.









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Drake_Sirlit said Sep 17, 2012 16:27:36
I really wish I had money to do something like this. Looking VERY nice, btw. Are you going to be building it anytime soon?
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Cmdr.Brandr said Sep 17, 2012 17:24:05
Nice design Tieguyny! I had been considering something similar for a trailer I have. I would love to have a copy of your sketchup file if you would share it please. Also how did you do the renders? They look nice.
Commander Brandr
Commanding Officer of the ship Calamitous Intent

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Drake_Sirlit said Sep 17, 2012 20:27:23
There should be an armrest mounted computer on the captains chair for the captains map.
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tieguyny said Sep 18, 2012 17:15:16
The renders were made in sketchup using the awesome plug in "LightUp".

Also, please check out my other post on Crowd Funding this build for use by the Artemis community.
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Cmdr.Brandr said Sep 18, 2012 18:41:17
Email sent. Plug in obtained.

Thanks!
Commander Brandr
Commanding Officer of the ship Calamitous Intent

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Check our crews adventures at http://nerdneerdowells.com
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tieguyny said Sep 19, 2012 00:45:07
Here are some "Red Alert" renders.









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tieguyny said Sep 19, 2012 00:59:59
I'd like to set up a stand alone system that would automatically turn on whenever the trailer was powered to play an ambient engine hum, like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_802046&feature=iv&src_vid=ZPoqNeR3_UA&v=cqCoUvz_nwI

I'd have to look into how to do it though.
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Drake_Sirlit said Sep 19, 2012 03:14:27
That's cool that everything turns red. I don't think there will be any doubt as to when you're at red alert. Also, I like that you put the plaque there, looks nice. As for the engine hum, if played on the inside it wouldn't seem right and would become annoying quickly, if played on the outside of the trailer it'd be awesome. Also, have you given any thought to the armrest mounted captains map?
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ThomRobertson said Sep 19, 2012 14:33:00
Your design for an Artemis trailer is amazing and cool. I want one! :)

Lemme throw some info at ya:


- 1080p projector OR 60" flat screen TV (same price)
But a flat-screen will eat less power. Also, you don't really need a 1080p screen for the main screen. The projector I use at shows is 1024x768, and nobody complains. I also use some cheap 32" 720p flatscreens; people like the resolution just fine.


- Five 15" touch screen all-in-one computers, mounted in custom black acrylic/wood terminals
My stage 2 rig units are 21" HP 2105tm touchscreens running on small, cheap e-machines. I paid $275 for the monitors, and $225 for the computers. The touchscreens work great, with no special modifications needed.

Now, the 2105tm monitors suddenly got more expensive, so I asked HP what's up, and they said they're moving to a newer model, the HP Compaq L2206tm, which is about the same thing, and currently selling for about $275.


- with pull out keyboard/mouse trays
I've found that the touchscreens really don't need mouse/keyboard, normally. Id suggest that, instead of a pull-out keyboard tray, you just have unobtrusive but accessible USB ports in case a keyboard is needed for maintenance.


- 5 crew chairs and 1 captain's chair (gaming chairs on custom swivel mounts)
This is the part of the fab job I'd be most worried about. Even if you don't expect the general public to use the bridge, chairs suffer a LOT of stress. I like your idea of getting both cheap and futuristic from gaming chairs, but mounting them right will be a challenge.

If you DO want the rig to be taken to conventions, and have people pay to play, those seats are going to be torn by the first teenager with a screwdriver in his pocket. Perhaps solid plastic or fiberglass chairs or bench seats would be better?


- 1 Server computer
You want this to be accessible, and you might want to think about making it accessible to the captain (perhaps a small usb keyboard near her seat?). At many shows I've been at, the crew drives into a minefield just as I step out to use the bathroom. If they can't restart the game themselves, they need an attendant standing by.


- An air conditioner rated for 150sq ft.(So you're missions don't get too smelly/uncomfortable)
And this is gonna be really critical for summertime, in a parking lot. I'd be worried about building and using the right one, and the power it'd draw.

On a related note, you might want to pay attention to claustrophobia. Players won't tell you they're claustrophobic until they're screaming to get out and breaking the equipment. Disney learned long ago that having a stream of air on a person's face helped a lot: http://www.yesterland.com/submarine.html

Also having the side door clearly and easily opened would be a good thing.


- Various lighting fixtures, taking advantage of the DMX features
Easy!


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